BenTrem tweeted on 2012-05-24

  • I'm so glad to see that Patrick is still getting some attention. see http://t.co/rBPzjq9C cc: @klintron in reply to klintron #
  • Funny, folk who want to manipulate and distort make fortunes. I want to improve civil discourse, and I'm a boring loser. Quite the culture! #
  • @DeliciousHot Was chatting just y'day about how to make best use of the very full accounts my pal and I havewith you. Yet more? Uh; no. :-) #
  • Sad how "technical writer" is distorted. I don't do advertising copy. I take your stuff and re-present it to you so you can use it better. #
  • #Sustainability24 – From 0600 to 1800 GMT. "Take a look at the sessions below that will be broadcasted live" > http://t.co/5S7wdAUd < #
  • Say we have 100 people for a 3 day facilitated consultation. What's the product? Right. Is what I realized in 1976. cc: @JamieBillingham #
  • @phillhocking "That's how it goes"?! Woa. Ss what I'd expect to hear from a slave. Or someone who's clinially depressed. You done give up? in reply to phillhocking #
  • @phillhocking http://t.co/jjpPlFdh is NoSuch. You still get EMail there? #
  • #Sustainability24 is now #Sust24 … "trending, we've been hit by villains" #
  • #Sust24 – Absent a full suite of tools (nota bene Accenture!) you couldn't post links for the survey. 2012, yes? –ben #
  • #Sust24 – As in tech_docs, alwaysRPTalways spell out / explicate acronyms on first use. Did you just now say CIDA? i.e. Canadian Int'l Aid? #
  • "Live broadcast Sustainability 24: setting the agenda for sustainable business" > http://t.co/BkftHWQN < (http://t.co/hhk1FmSK) #Sust24 #
  • "Cradle to cradle" works. Let's talk life-cycle analysis: has that been exposed to Open Data projects? #Sust24 #
  • Let's not get hung up on linear ROI; we're fighting entropy. Let's get into non-linear / fractal dynamics. Elegance is life! #Sust24 #
  • #Sust24 – Myth: hungry people do not think about fairness. (Maslow's hierarchy has become bourgeois propaganda.) Bread and roses! #borg #
  • The subjugation of individual persons is directly correlated to the conspicuous consumption of some. This is not news. #Sust24 #
  • SideBar – My first big project at then SMU Center for international Justice was EMail discourse on sustainability. NB: 1995. #Sust24 #
  • @iPaawan Do give credit to #Accenture when you can. Guardian _et al_ have need for that. I can dig, but I need shovels. #Sust24 in reply to iPaawan #
  • #sustainability24 – Please note: sherpas request we switch to #Sust24 warmest regards –ben #
  • "Transparency" is somewhat straw-man / red–herring. As tech_docs specialist I can bury anything anytime. #Sust24 #OpenData #
  • @staceysadams "Warm heartedness" can be improved: solidarity, empathy, compassion ==> "loving kindness". #Sust24 cc: @umairh @Raleigh_ in reply to staceysadams #
  • @CarolineHoltum "Beyond GDP" must always factor in "Gross National Happiness"! :-) #EnlightenedSelfInterest #Altruism #Sust24 #Narrative in reply to CarolineHoltum #
  • Lucid authencity, however un-informed, always threatens the psychopath. This is step 1. After? Altruism. #Sust24 #OpenIntel #Discourse #
  • @Cafedirect_HQ Trust some will rally to the Agora, to rationality as though to the sound of the drums. We're exquisitely social. #Sust24 in reply to Cafedirect_HQ #
  • "Interconnected" i.e. feed-back / feed-forward. Profit? Ok: altruism. Elegance. Pride. Dignity. Self-esteem. #Sust24 #
  • "How does the market reward you?" translated: "Have psychopaths taken control of the //invisible hand// (yet)?" #Sust24 #GlobalGulag #
  • @BernieGlassman In the moment, Sensei … #Sust24 … I can grok "unity of 3 times", so I'm tempted to trash-can bots. __{*}__ in reply to BernieGlassman #
  • @planamikebarry "Don't stand on the street, you won't get hit by a bus." Children are socialized to madness. @staceysadams @Raleigh_ #Sust24 in reply to planamikebarry #
  • @planamikebarry 2012 and we can't handle definitions? Oh. Really? Truly? As pro tech_docs (MilSpec) I'll tell you that's choice. #Sust24 in reply to planamikebarry #
  • My cohort's gift: "We can't define sustainability! or benefit! or good! or up!" Pathetic self-loathing. #Sust24 #
  • #WWF – Focus on profit. Sing the devil's song, and include lyrics about praxis, and elegance, and efficiency. Profound glory! #Sust24 #
  • Read "Cradle to Crade" and buy the carpets. Thus endeth the sermon. heh ^5 #Sust24 cheers Stockholm! #
  • @Accenture Kudos on #Sust24 Feel free to contact me about #ParticipatoryDeliberation (if you dare /*G*/). http://t.co/fCL8FUeo –ben #
  • @phillhocking NP Phil, solid copy here … 5 by 5. And NB: got your EMail, though of course we can message via GPlus. keep on keepin' on! in reply to phillhocking #
  • Improving efficiency and "footprint on environment" so we don't have to deal with alienation of person? #Sust24 #
  • Watching my technocratic cohort, I was more than happy to forego that income. Insanity; what's the up-side? #Sust24 #
  • I love technology. _Parlez-vous techne_ and _praxis_? But "tactic without strategy is the fast road to calamity". #Sust24 #
  • Bla-yada-blah opportunity /calamity. "The perfect answer becomes a donkey's hitching post." –Peasant Zen #Sust24 #
  • While living high off the hog my cohort begars me until they are positioned to expropriate the value of my persistence. #Sust24 #borg #
  • Gob-smacking news: corporations move on #Sust24 when it profits them. My old line: "Social disintegration is bad for business." circa '82. #
  • Corporations can tap into markety flows down to the lowest peasant. (And well being too? Not likely.) #Sust24 #Mobile #
  • Q: can you trust the likes of the self-alienated like Zuckerberg to generate fundamental innovation? You'll ignore //us//? #Sust24 #
  • @greenmondaynews That is //so// freakin' cliche … stale thinking for pressing problems?! #AttentionEconomy cliche in the place of thought? in reply to greenmondaynews #
  • #Sust24 – As a young man I went infantry. Then we over-threw Allende, for economic reasons. Then I did broadcasting. Then philosophy. 0_o #
  • @frucool "We live in an economy or a society? Words matter." Yes. They do. Apparently you have a pair of 2s. cc: @futerra @GreenSolitaire in reply to frucool #
  • @greenmondaynews "Turning point" was creating a committee. Why, because they dared create a paper trail? #naivete in reply to greenmondaynews #
  • Who has enough wit or presence of mind to shout out to @Accenture and #Guardian for #Sust24 (05:30 here) I for 1! #Sust24 #
  • @stoweboyd #Sust24 Stowe … reminds me of 1995, vaguely … American University in Japan, on the same topic. Old is new again? @Accenture in reply to stoweboyd #
  • "Sustainable insurance" … there's a thought: a capital force against the psychopaths! #Sust24 #
  • #Sust24 – 5B Eu on R&D? Sure … show me spreadsheet concerning #ParticipatoryDeliberation #Praxis #Ideology "Thresholds"? Do tell! heh #
  • Let's speak as adults: we buy into your story-line, we get (perhaps) a small share of your vast profits. For a short while. #Sust24 #
  • @blkbennett "The next generation of leaders"? You've stuck a winning chord. I've ruined my life talking about engaging civil society #Sust24 in reply to blkbennett #
  • And yes, I /did/ coordinate a global session on sustainability via EMail … in 1995. #Sust24 #
  • @ORB_UK "Leadership" in "front line managers"? No, heck no. Let them have their salary, and sequester them as mercenaries. #Sust24 in reply to ORB_UK #
  • Heads up! "Behavioral changes" on #Sust24 #
  • "Live broadcast Sustainability 24: setting the agenda for sustainable business" => #Sust24 > http://t.co/BkftHWQN < #
  • "Accenture Sustainability Services"?! Lord thunderin' geezus, you been in a back room with NSA?! cc: @accenture #
  • @JustinKeeble – Look at the video of you. You're inside an MI-5 cell? Now, let's talk comunicative gesture. #Sus24 #
  • Hot-shots use rhetoric, thinking that they've aced 8 ball. Indulged. Clue #1 if you don't know snooker, you don't know sophistry. #Sust24 #
  • "Are you optimistic about the next generation of leaders?" "What, the yuppies' kidz? Oops. Do I still have a job?" #Sust24 #
  • Ah-Ha! @Accenture, you're going to //change// the conversation?! I suggest that we haven't f'n //had// theconversation. meh #Sust24 #
  • video outage on both machine here #sust24 #
  • Wow … "banned" on #Sust24 … I don't rate participation. I can't even watch. So, what was I talking about? #
  • Yes, in context of "banned", and after having quoted HHDalai Lama (I'm Karma Kagyu) let's shift the convo to "leadership thinking". #Sust24 #
  • Yes, let's get down to brass tacks: "how do we get people to follow the leaders" #Sust24 (What did I say about my yuppie cohort? hmm?) #
  • Want promotion? Suck up. Want to find out who folk are? Take the piss. #Sust24 admin //banned// me. Now, what was I saying? #Discourse #
  • @Accenture – Promoted in the military, I facilitated comms while we over-threw democrats. As tech_docs, I buried facts. Tell me what? hunh? #
  • "Real change needs to come from multiple directions." Please, someone tell me that this is not news. Really. #Sust24 #CorpThink #
  • "Everybody has something to contribute" … and yet the BanHammer is weilded as though a childish IRC channel. Grow up. #Yuppies #Sust24 #
  • "Business had brilliant execution" … someone had the decency to cough on mic. (I have no mic, but I got //banned//.) #Sophistry #Sust24 #
  • "Why is that conversation relevant" ref: engaging employees. Silly me? I've been talking #ParticipatoryDeliberation #Sust24 –ben (banned) #
  • @Igology Simpler: food problems (see "food deserts" in cities) is a question of distribution. #ConspicuousConsumption #Sust24 –ben (banned) in reply to Igology #
  • @angelajhanjiSeparate from //what//? Golly … all these problems, and folk talkin' short-hand. Point is what, regular schmooze? #Sust24 #
  • @HAVASDESIGN Let's celebrate! Environmental crisis is "opportunity for brand identification"! #Sust24 cc: @Accenture in reply to HAVASDESIGN #
  • @angelajhanji That isn't even a sentence. But I get banned. Telling, no? I'm sure you have a wonderful career ahead of you. Thus it is. in reply to angelajhanji #
  • Please, let's be rigorous. "Social benefits"? Someof us know that S officers would take their familes out Jew hunting on Sundays. #Sust24 #
  • Peasant that I am (Banned? Yes, banned.) I'd say that any psychopath worth his salt would script this just as it is. #Sust24 (With respect!) #
  • "We don't believe in these dichotomies". Fine. Now operationalize that existentiality. Ie: so what? On the street? In the markets? #Sust24 #
  • What I know, existentially: I poked @Accenture and I got //banned// from my online session. Mere fact. #Sust24 #
  • "Long term assets that will be affected" is fine, so long as we're spreadsheets. But I profess #subjectiveNarrative and #Discourse #Sust24 #
  • Maybe when it comes to "making it so" we should get the officers to STFU and give the grunts space to get to the work. Yaa? #Sust24 #
  • Since 1973 I've beensaying that my yuppie cohort are cynical mercenaries. Let the contractors and lobbyists dictate agenda?! #Jest #Sust24 #
  • @SpiritConsultUK A number of individuals have risen to the moment. It's existential, n'est-ce pas? :-) #Sust24 in reply to SpiritConsultUK #
  • Late 70s (context: GATT) my peers and I were talking in terms of human factors. Yuppies starved us out. Now? Re-tread? re-factore? #Sust24 #
  • @stoweboyd Sorry Stowe, I thought I gavey you URL. Guardian + @Accenture sponsor 12hrs on sustainability. Click #Sust24 /*blink*/ #Comms in reply to stoweboyd #
  • Oh c'mon … let's get real … those ancient forces are for political stablity #1 Talk #GlobalGulag #Sust24 #
  • You give us decent rifles //after the battle is lost//. You presume ignorance of history. Collaborate, don't patronize. #Sust24 #
  • Read a book: "Spaceship Earth" i.e. there are the pirates, and there are the navigators, and the rest are cannon fodder. #Sust24 #
  • //Hooa!// Mr. Mark Fulton dared factor civil society into long-term returns. (You're a man who'd know a good Sgt!) #Sust24 #
  • //Hooa! again// Mr. Mark Fulton … talks a bit of inside baseball, as though us mere grunts understand the tech! #Sust24 #
  • Jo Confino's dong a fabulous job as facilitator, wouldn't you say? #Sust24 #
  • … those rooms are straight out of BBC "MI-5", wouldn't you say? #CommunicativeGesture #Sust24 #
  • #Sust24 – If you listen very closely, for as long as you can manage … hear anything contentious? No? Nor I. #Dialectic #Discourse #
  • > http://t.co/Spu6Zsu4 < #Sust24 (Was #Sustainability24 #
  • World Bank Special Envoy … okay. Have we seen any rapporteur? #Discourse #Deliberation #Dialectic #Sust24 #
  • "We've massively failed to communicate" –Mr. Andrew Steer. So, mistake to hire lackies as technical cmmunicators? #Sust24 #
  • @lauren_ing Actually not "first time". The early hash-tag trended fast and (Got hacked? I dunno.) they quickly / early asked us to switch. in reply to lauren_ing #
  • @euhlhorn Debt, like money, is abstract. Ecological collapse, like death of troops and peasants, is not. Do they care? Who's "they"? #Sust24 in reply to euhlhorn #
  • Just before getting //banned//, after having gven feedback on audio, I messaged "And yes, I am a groundling!" Fatal mistake? #Sust24 #
  • "We need a globally aligned carbon tax that will help to take down debt." And who would say the opposite?! To increase debt? #Sust24 #
  • Q: What self-respecting psychopath would //not// rhyme off list of topics? Point: rhetoric should be an invitation, but no more. #Sust24 #
  • @AlcoaFoundation I could ask, "Why thank for retweets". But more: why include the sust hash-tag when you thank? Rather self-serving, no? in reply to AlcoaFoundation #
  • #Sust24 – We've crossed over to NA … and my eyes are glazing over. (Not likely!) #
  • #Sust24 – Do you sense the " 3rd rail" dynamics now that the panel is US based? #Chill #
  • @AlcoaFoundation How often are you goint to thank folk for retweets? #Shameless in reply to AlcoaFoundation #
  • On carbon offset for air travel, "We've massively failed to communicate" –Mr. Andrew Steer. On finances of electric car, the same. #Sust24 #
  • Breaking: gov't spokespersan says "would rather be more satisfied". C'mon now folk, this is how you kill a crowd. #Sust24 (Who's "Nick"?) #
  • "Guardian Sustainable Business and Accenture bring you 12 hours of live debate from around the world" > http://t.co/T94JHfPC < #Sust24 #
  • Well when I was giving you feedback you //banned// me. "Nick" is not in the list. NAME HIM AGAIN, okay?! #Sust24 #sherpa #roadie #
  • @HelleBankJorgen Pitfalls have been good? Sorry … my trade consists of correcting experts and programmers when they uhhhh slip. in reply to HelleBankJorgen #
  • Breaking News: Rewards have been good. (Uh … "bad" rewards?) Also: pitfalls have been "good". (Uh … is your mom home?) #
  • Geezus H … points for walking. Which you can trade in at restaurants. If you can forgive me: you are INSANE. #Sust24 #
  • 1978 I was talking about how CS could reduce isolation of municipalities ref: policy. 2012 #Sust24 it's the same. Good grief. #
  • "Nick" (Who is not listed, but has not been properly introduced) seems to talk sense about startups. #Sust24 #
  • @Adheintz I can see it: proles with numbers on their backs, walking, playing the part of random balls in a lottery. It's insanity. in reply to Adheintz #
  • THANK YOU! :-) #Sust24 c u in 5 #
  • Because economy in general, like innovation in particular, is essentially social, rhetoric papers over the personality politics. #Sust24 #
  • For #Sust24http://t.co/jCYq42bZ < (Audio's been fine Ash!) #
  • re: "compliance" – I've talked fairness, and I've talked rule of law. (Also discourse. /*shrug*/) I now encounter cynicism on both. #Sust24 #
  • Again: as a tech_docs specialist, I can hide things in plain sight. #ForensicAudit not "Open Data" and "transparency". #Discourse #Sust24 #
  • #Sust24 – UPS … hard-ball … nuts&bolts. This fellow (not listed; re-introduce throughout please!) is talking turkey. #
  • Metrics … forensics … salience. #OpenData w/o critical attention = #SmokeAndMirrors i.e. grist for yuppie sophistry. #HardBall #Sust24 #
  • @Accenture – I say //hooa!// to Mr. Nicholus, though you //banned// me on the feed. ^5 #
  • @semil Beer is bulky, and it smells. A good scotch. Or a good gin. Hey, it's the water of life! in reply to semil #
  • "Selection process" – Since we have income disparity, why not play polarization i.e. double down and bank on stupification? ROI, no? #Sust24 #
  • "Verifying carbon assertions"- Really, what GoP candidate can trot that out?! Over-view has been discredited, another 3rd rail. #Sust24 #
  • Oh, Mr. Nicholus, trust me, some of us like to hear about ISO. (Canadian born and bred here. And hard-nut tech_docs for fun.) @Accenture #
  • "Businesses are smart" … so, since when has "smart" = "trustworthy"? My local crack heads are smart. And agile. #Sust24 #
  • "Write once; write right"; I coined that in a MilSpec project circa 1989. 2012 … we're talking data 101. I should be impressed?! #Sust24 #
  • I'm reminded of what you get when you give psychopaths sessions on socialization: more skillful psychopaths. #Sust24 (Discourse? Argh!) #
  • Ashley – Because not listed, your guest from UPS disappears. Please re-introduce and name. _Por favor._ #Sust24 #
  • Mr. Nicholus – Trust me: some of us out here work on that level. Grunts. Hammer&Tong types. keep on keepin' on! cc: @Accenture #Sust24 #
  • @yourdon Crappy weather here in central Alberta but heck, we declared forest fire season 1 month early this year, so … HeyHo. cheers in reply to yourdon #
  • @dpn Suffer. ;p Whassup mate? Critical design review? 3rd kid due? income tax audit? hang-nail? in reply to dpn #
  • @joconfino Mr. Confino! Joe! Sterling job … heck: paradigmatic. Good show all'round; shouts to you for facilitation. ^5 @GuardianSustBiz in reply to joconfino #
  • @justin_hart Maring of error. Standard deviation. Self-reporting as unreliable. Direction of the wind. Make one up … in reply to justin_hart #
  • #Sust24 – But they yet again refuse to re-introduce guests (UPS) who are not listed on the page. It's called "good manners". #Cybernetics #
  • @Accenture – Cultured persons do not rely on script or Standard Operating Procedure. Your guest does not appear in the list? Introduce him. #
  • @Accenture – UPS hits home run again! "Complete; comprehensive; correct" I coined in '89. And his name was? #
  • @GossGeekGirl … and in an hour I or someone else might have missed that. //He// was not listed in the sidebar. Is my point. in reply to GossGeekGirl #
  • @GossGeekGirl But thanks for the name. The argument was entirely optional. And surplus to requirement. in reply to GossGeekGirl #
  • @dpn Check your zipper. Don't slobber. Breath … think Buddha belly. that.is.all (Break a leg!) in reply to dpn #
  • @dpn Oh, and good on yuh! Look out: that stuff is right addictive … heh … /me shoves sock in mouth in reply to dpn #
  • "Social"? I don't see much "social" in this. Plenty of passive aggression. Plenty of raised elbows. Plenty of sophistry. Social? You figure? #
  • Sometimes what passes for intelligence frightens me. "Reporting and improvement go hand in hand." Oh. You don't say. /*shudder*/ #
  • @AliVelshi Boy, if that was "botched" … what's to be said, "There be dragons"? in reply to AliVelshi #
  • First year of Worls Social Summit (Porto Alegre) I was in traction. Got a doctor to wire me a modem. How many of you know of #WSF #Sust24 #
  • #Sust24 – In all these hours, did we once hear #SocialJustice I didn't. Did you? #SubjectiveNarrative #Discourse cc: @Accenture #
  • Nothing like recording 10 video over 12hrs to put a crimp in a person's mood / sociability. ;p #

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CMC since '72; compulsively tech_docs
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