- I say "Global Gulag", NYTimes' David Sanger writes "Democracy, Limited" >
http://bit.ly/b5BDliI
< *shrug* He has a position to protect. ;-)
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- I wonder how #
TeaBaggers
trash talk this: "Veterans Caregiver Bill Signed Into Law" >
http://bit.ly/dAVEEg
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- #
G20
already making history: arbitrary suspension of Canadian civil rights along the fence line i.e. arrest powers expanded w/o process.
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- Mainstream media is so painfully lame; reporter freaks out because someone lit a flare. Now big deal is some vuvuzela. *sigh* #
G20
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- #
G20
protest has inherited from the past; civil-society trumped by BlackBloc. "End of History" was premature!
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- @
rmoldovanyi
"Violence against corporate property" has been BlackBloc 101 since the beginning.
in reply to rmoldovanyi
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- @
ProudoftheUSA
A lousy time for you to act holier than thou.
in reply to ProudoftheUSA
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- @
RoisinB
But the immediate effect of massive police presence was to reduce those non-violent actions. So BlackBloc have monopoly.
in reply to RoisinB
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- In terms of simple tactic, cops would drive BBloc up against the fence, not away from. Pin / contain / arrest.
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- FWIW it wasn't BlackBloc cadre being harassed by police. Most likely spokespeople for civil society. Shut them down => violence.
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- @
ProudoftheUSA
Actually I was thinking back to such as A16-DC/WB-IMF … basically the same stuff.
in reply to ProudoftheUSA
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- @
rmoldovanyi
Wasn't saying one way or another. Just that it's been explicit for a decade or so. Starbucks and banks, for e.g.
in reply to rmoldovanyi
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- @
RoisinB
One of those "Wow is real life ever sticky!" sorta paradoxes. On the other hand mayhem is easy/simple. HeyHo, thus it is.
in reply to RoisinB
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- @
katecarraway
The analysis runs something like, "Main-stream press seldom covers the issues in depth then plays up violence." Ironic, nae?
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- @
katrinahass
The history of relations BlackBloc / civil society is revealing. The tactics seem incoherent, but they're not idiots.
in reply to katrinahass
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- CTV commentator says cops should be firing tear-gas … which shows you need hamster IQ to be pundit. #
G20
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- @
AngelicaMunster
CTVNews and CBCNewsworld are also both at streeth level. #
G20
in reply to AngelicaMunster
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- Anybody who's surpised at BlackBloc presence has been asleep since 1998. #
G20
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- @
ProudoftheUSA
A16-DC = April 16, Washington DC. (2000? 01?) Same stuff, but against WB/IMF.
in reply to ProudoftheUSA
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- If I had the time I'd collect stories rwindows smashing rampages after championship games. (Reason means considering context/history.) #
G20
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- If I had the time I'd collect stories windows smashing rampages after championship games. (Reason means considering context/history.) #
G20
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- @
ProudoftheUSA
cheers
in reply to ProudoftheUSA
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- @
katecarraway
Yepp yepp … you and xx% others. So my main argument against BB: they aren't representative, but take things over.
in reply to katecarraway
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- You've seen those big nasty plastic bullets? I got mine (AR-1) 2AM doing a med-evac in QC. The cop who fired at me couldn't care less.
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- @
tylerconium
The dynamics can actually be mapped, from past events. Side-effect: lotsa folk get turned off PERIOD. sad #
G20
in reply to tylerconium
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- @
oliviachow
IMNSHO keeping folk away from the fence guarantees this inchoate rampaging. We're hardly on new ground here! best
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- @
katrinahass
BlackBloc members against property damage? *shrug* Whatever you say.
in reply to katrinahass
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- @
aliliebs
CBCNewsworld has been on the street since Queen and Spadina.
in reply to aliliebs
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- @
kiwinerd
You can tell the helicopters are military? Or maybe you don't know, and don't care that it matters. C'mon …
in reply to kiwinerd
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- @
shawnfbowman
heh … and Indymedia isn't an organization either. Very precious use of terminology.
in reply to shawnfbowman
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- @
ChrisLaBossiere
Yours is one of the top tweets. I can't help finding that sorta sad.
in reply to ChrisLaBossiere
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- Imagine this: serious people think you can wall off city core and create no-go/police zone w/o pissing some people off. Naive? or foolish?
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- @
ChrisLaBossiere
Oh, hey, I heart you. I'm usually in the middle of it (media/medic) and it pisses me right off. Doesn't make for analysis!
in reply to ChrisLaBossiere
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- One thing would settle things down big-time: a good loud rally / protest / demonstration. BB guerilla tactics may rule this long day. #
G20
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- "We need more security" … now how's that for dumb. $1B = what we have. We should spend what, $5B? Reactionaries are /dumb/. #
G20
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- @
kady
In one big demo we had mashalls doing just that: behind each BB group, doing a fast cleanup.
in reply to kady
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- ReTw @
ShambhalaPubs
– Look for Pema Chodron on this Sunday eve's @
ABCworldnews
— around 6:30 PDT. #
dharma
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- @
kiwinerd
You said. So: you know? Transporting VIPs would circle around? *shakes head*
in reply to kiwinerd
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- @
YummyMummyClub
"the majority of protesters are dressed in black and hiding their faces" Really? Majority? You must have TV on cellphone.
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- CTVNews has looped images of window smashing interspersed with flaming cruiser. BlackBloc bad, main-stream media pure and good. *sigh*
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- @
kiwinerd
By way of context: I'm reactive to suggestions of military intervention in civil affairs. Iz whott.
in reply to kiwinerd
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- @
CBCNewsDesk
BB has been a presence since before N30-Seattle/WTO … research should be easy!
in reply to CBCNewsDesk
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- @
cbcconnect
Hey Mark, have a sit-down w/Jaggi and Maude on BB tactics. This is same old same-old … discourse re: alternatives!
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- "The violence is continuing … reports of 2 police cars burned." That's not continuing, CTV, that's "earlier actions have ended"!
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- TV coverage is now tight-looped so most violent confrontations are being shown dozen times in 5 minutes. "Reporting"?
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- @
CTV
@CBC The way you're looping video right now on NewsWorld and CTVN should be criminal. Total distortion. /You/ contribute to hystria.
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- How to lie with facts: cherry pick from 2hrs of multi-source and cut that in with streets scenes. #
yuppies
show their true colors.
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- Parting shot: BlackBloc don't hide behind sophistry. @
CBC
and @
CTV
are now in full propaganda mode. Shame. #
G20
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- Over and over again footage from hours ago … "informed public", is the concept new to you? #
Shame
#G20 @
CBC
CTV
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- Looking at @
CBC
and @
CTV
you'd think downtown TO was in all out rampage mode; cutting real-time in with footage from hours ago. #
G20
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- Oh, look someone smashing a bank window! 1,728th time that bank has been attacked; how odd! #
shame
@
CBC
CTV #
G20
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- @
cbcnews
– Mayor of Toronto is on TV. You should buy one … it's kinda neat. *sigh*
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- heh … Mayor of Toronto was taken by surprise re: "5 meter rule". Read about it in the paper. (NB: Arbitrary is mark of police state.)
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- Mayor asks "Are we going to 2nd guess every police decision?" Well that's odd. Cuz answer is "Yes". Is what civil society does: ask & talk.
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- @
CBC
@CTV both went from tight looping of most violent scenes presented as though live to very, very long talking head interviews. #
G20
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- @
CTV
– Classy! Cut the major's last question because the reporter was foreign. Gawd … you've no gag-reflex left, have you.
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- @
CTV
's take on things: "Can the leaders be kept safe?" Yaa, right … like there was a massive insurgency. #
propaganda
#G20
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- @
ormistononline
How is it not a lul? BB in short time smashed windows and torched cars. That's done. Stopped. How "not a lul"?
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- Classic Georgetown University "Social Communications" tactics: 1st tight-loop violence, then jaw, now (after tone is set) do retrospection.
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- @
CTV
If somone smashed your picture windows, would you say your house was "destroyed"? Why do you do that sort of thing? #
propaganda
#G20
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- #
Social
psychology – I concentrated on "discourse variance". Bullshitters show their true colours when they're knocked off script. #
G20
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- #
G20
Multiple police cruisers left un-manned at various points in the protest area. (A clever tactic that went pear-shaped?)
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- #
G20
– International press was rivetted by TV coverage … of the world cup. @
CBC
and @
CTV
coverage fail to rationalize $1B security budget.
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- French Pres. says he's spend 1/10th on security. Gee, only $100M. heh #
G20
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- @
CBCNewsDesk
Anyone who couldn't anticipate BB is simply inept. (No, not tactic … of course not. But /presence/.)
in reply to CBCNewsDesk
#
- "Framework" for #
G20
economic stimulus policy. Well, start with evidence-based instead of schmooze factor. Oh, wait … just me being silly.
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- @
CBCNewsDesk
Has anyone there even 1ce made slight reference to fact that this is paradigmatic BB action? Mother Corp requires empty heads?
in reply to CBCNewsDesk
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- #
G20
– Spontaneous gathering would do the trick. Like L'Ilot Fleuris in A20-QC.
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- #
G20
– Police horse-charge around Queens Park. NO PEACEFUL ASSEMBLY ALLOWED! Everyone is BlackBloc, now, apparently.
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- #
G20
– Hand drummers to Queen's Park!
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- So now we see: do police get to criminalize the entire area? That would make it easy for them … pepper-spray and sound bombs next. #
G20
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- Dear Mr. Mayor – You figure folk will just melt away? evaporate? You seem sane … get a f'n grip; don't pull a Pinochet. #
G20
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- What the bourgeoisie can't do: relate as though human. Power, rank, orders, dictates, contracts … failing that: nothing. Void. #
G20
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- #
G20
– Back in the day you had folk like us (hand-drummers), Food Not Bombs, Raging Grannies; without that, BB is it. So: Speak Your Peace!
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- OMG interviewing a totally nice civil society coordinator. I wonder if he's done street-medic. Betcha not. But he's "nice", so … @
CTV
#
G20
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- Time … time! Time stamp your stuff, please. (YouTube
http://youtu.be/09BD_bPP-2A?a)
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- Triggering the storm: "#G20 confrontation at University and Elm" >
http://bit.ly/dflWeG
< police block peaceful protest @
CBCNewsdesk
@CTV
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- #
g20reports
– Things are settling down near Queen's Park. If the hand-drummers gather, they will come!
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- @
KenChapman46
What I think is more telling / incisive: how to explain the surprise? Who, pray tell, could be surprised? Smacks of cant.
in reply to KenChapman46
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- For the record, and this is boilerplate: what offends me about BlackBloc tactics, simply: it's smash&run. No sort of militance there. #
G20
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- And w/o the hashtag: most non-BlackBloc kidz I meet have just given up. They know their parents, and their bosses. And they feel defeated.
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- @
CBCNewsDesk
calls it a "show-down". Are they illiterate? Or just #
yuppies
in propaganda-mode? I say the latter. #
G20
G20reports
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- @
CTV
– Downtown occupied by small group of people? That small group is gone. Will you say that? That BlackBlock is gone? Your reporter did.
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- @
TorontoPolice
I surely hope BB presence didn't take you by surprise. Specific movement, yes of course … but … gadd …
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- For the record, BlackBloc has /always/ used splinter movement as core tactic. Don't be deceived: no great surprises here. #
G20
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- #
G20
– Police singling out individuals along the streets; one taken down at Queen's Park.
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- #
G20
– Snatch and grab happening throughout downtown area. (When it was my turn I was tackled from behind. Shockin', it was!)
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- @
PlanCanada
– After Nth event c/w BlackBloc I have a question: how come you don't have plans? Why aren't you gathering right now? #
G20
in reply to PlanCanada
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- #
G20
– Folk in Queen's Park gathered quietly are being pushed back by forces c/w horses.
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- #
G20
– Horses charging in Queen's Park
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- #
G20
– @
CBC
called it show-down. Want a show-down? Keep pushing people peacefully gathered. "Police state; love it or leave it"
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- #
Yuppies
could easily have come up with contingency planning for social activity Saturday. Did they? Or just whine/whinge about BB? #
G20
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- "Civil order" … turning the whole of TO core into militarized zone is police plan? Wow … as dumb as BlackBloc! #
G20
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- @
CBCNewsDesk
– You're actually getting reporting from Gillespie! "Deliberate tactic to clear Queen's Park", just so. #
G20
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- BTW typical snatch & grab is like rough game of touch football. Don't blow things out of proportion. #
G20
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- Dear Mayor Miller – Creating a police only zone is 1 way to do it. The other way is to pretend we live in a democracy. It's an option. #
G20
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- 1st: pass expanded polic powers w/o announcement; 2nd: transform downtown into police only zone. So: what do we know how to do well? #
G20
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- #
G20
– Police charging totally peaceful gathering in Queen's Park.
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- "Guilty until manifestly proven innocent" … Canada will lecture such as Russia and Saudi Arabia? #
farce
#G20
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- Nice kidz running in panic … from what, BlackBloc? goons? Taliban? No: Canadian police in Queen's Park. #
Yuppies
never look. #
G20
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- @
RCMP
– RFE: get people who's ideological bias isn't so operationally significant.
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- When I got my plastic bullet the phalanx charged down near-empty street. I was waving a white flag and bandana calling "MedEvac!" He fired.
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- wow cops really got no rhyhm #
G20
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- So: the cops (yet again … not first time) allow BlackBloc activity and now will impose Gestapo area clearances. #
G20
G20reports
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- #
G20
#G8 yet again become demonstration / exercise of police tactics. Civil society? /What/ civil society. #
yuppies
make me sick. #
G20
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- #
G20
– The mistake was to move away from Queen and Spadina. Give the cops an inch and they take miles and miles and miles!
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- Police to Civil Society: Screw you … you're all bums. #
G20
G20reports
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- #
G20
– Absolutely no way this is last minute planning. This is "Okay, so after BlackBloc puts on their show, we own the town."
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- Hey Ontario! No way the cops wudda dared try this stunt in Quebec City! @
CBCNewsDesk
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- Meanwhile @
CTV
shows burning cruiser for 8th time the past 15 minutes. C'mon, really: main-stream media sux ass. #
G20
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